Cap 2: Electric Boogaloo

[the_man]

Ladies and gentlemen, I thought we should have a reaction/discussion post herein. Please do link to your own personal movie reaction posts if you have them.

Now that we know a little more about the past and future in the MCU, I'll be moving Fury up in canon to Cap 1. Avengers will follow thereafter. Everyone is obviously free to follow their own timelines. As usual, I am always ready for OOMs, should you so desire.

HERE THERE BE SPOILERS. Do not read the comments unless you have already seen the movie, or don't care about being spoiled!

Comments

[ashen_key]

Brief reaction:

MY GIRL. NATASHA. BB. YOUR FACE.

1984 is the bullshit thing I've ever heard in my life, because the youngest I could ever buy a non-old Natasha would be about 35, 36 in Avengers. Obviously for Milliways (regardless of any splittings into AUs and different timeliness), it's totally non-millicanonical. Although I can buy it that it's her current official birthdate on the records, and Zola is a decades-old computer who makes glitches.





THEIR FACES.




More coming once I manage to drag Aspen and TL into many huddled conferences of how things roll into Milliways, or don't, or what-not.




(called Natasha-Fury relationship. I called it. I so called it. PS FURY, SHE IS NOT FORGIVING YOU FOR MAKING HER CRY. :|)




I promise I'll be coherent at some point.

*hands*

[the_man]

I admit to shedding a manly tear or two during the movie. But I refuse to say when, on the grounds that it will incriminate me.

[redintheledger]

Naaaaaaaaaat. Fuuuuuuuuuury. She was totally ready to go and revenge people for him.

[nerves_of_ice]

HEY quick thought - gramarye1971 spotted why 1984 might be a Significant Date that Zola would ping on, and it actually makes PERFECT SENSE for it to be when Nat left given Events That Were Occurring (which you probably already know but I didn't know the full extent so I share that there are links to history facts in my main-journal spoilerific post comments).

[ashen_key]

Yes! I saw those links briefly, but I haven't managed to look into them yet (yaaaay guest! yaaaaay trying to finish this fiiiic). But I think it makes a lot of sense, and also why she chooses it later as her new birthdate.

We can get this working, oh yes.

(Aspen, he didn't kill her. he didn't even try until directly ordered. ow.)

[nerves_of_ice]

I know. And then when he was directly ordered, he focused on her himself; he did NOT leave her to the rest of the team. Nope.

(Also I have email comments for you soon I swear!)

[howdoyoufeel]

The Zola thing actually had me kind of pondering Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. canon.

[nerves_of_ice]

Yes indeed. I think we'll see on Tuesday, but given the predictive nature of that algorithm... there does seem to be a connection.

[howdoyoufeel]

Yeah I mean, I came right off of catching up on this week's episode so it was fresh in my mind but with what we know of the Clairvoyant and their relation to S.H.I.E.L.D. I wonder if they also have a connection to HYDRA. However there's no proof of that, that's just my stream of consciousness.

[nerves_of_ice]

WHY HELLO THERE EVERYONE.

First up - my semi-incoherent, relatively detailed spoiler-filled reaction post is over here.

Second - more details coming as all involved parties hash them out (I'm right now further west visiting with thekidfrombrooklyn's player, for one, because there was NO WAY we were watching this one states apart), but rough planned timeline is to take from April to August to move through the Cold War and the transfer/sale to HYDRA (I have thoughts on this), and whatever leadup needs to be done, and hit CA2 movie canon before the end of the summer.

Also. the_man? We should talk.

[the_man]

You know it.

[ashen_key]

rough planned timeline is to take from April to August to move through the Cold War

When we have brain and email ability, can we talk how this will affect Nataliya and Bucky? (Particularly given how slow we get things done, and emotional timelines and THINGS)

[silveraspen]

Absolutely! :D

(Also I call that timeline rough b/c it's really more like a guideline. Or a target to shoot at. You know?)

[ashen_key]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay! (Now the trick: Finding My Brain)



(And I do! But as I don't really want to wrap up Nataliya's presence in bar remotely that quickly (and I can't see how I can anyway), wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey things. BUT! We can get this working so everyone is happy :D Once we have brain)

[silveraspen]

(We can totally make it work! Once there is Return of the Wandering Brain(s). Milli-timelines are helpful like that. I shall email.)

[thekidfrombrooklyn]

My reaction is basically AHHHHHHH MY BABIES.

And then plotting. Such much plotting. Like nerves_of_ice said, we are hashing out the details but have a rough timeline worked out. It will be grand. Painful, but grand.

[notapilot]

I may be apping this new headvoice here, once I play a bit more in the sandboxes.

And my reaction post is here. NOt much for Milliways since I'm not part of this canon (yet?) but I guess this is a potential Sam waving hi. =]

[nerves_of_ice]

Want anyone over in a sandbox post to help you give the voice a trial run?

[notapilot]

Sure! I'm sorta on slowtime though as I'm watching Clone Wars.

[nerves_of_ice]

No worries! Slowtime is a natural state. Anyone in particular, or luck of the draw?

[notapilot]

Luck of the draw sounds good. :)

[hisonegoodeye]

CAPTAIN'S ORDERS.

oh god. CAPTAIN'S ORDERS I CANNOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO EVEN.

also I have a lot of Falcon feelings. Like, a lot a lot. And PEGGY oh god PEGGY I hate you I love you.

AND BUCKY. BUCKY LETTING THEM MINDWIPE HIM AGAIN AND GOING CATATONIC AND OH GOD HIS FACE. ALL THEIR FACES oh god.

"Don't look at me, I do what he does, only slower."

FALCON. KIDS.

(Coulson is tamping right now. Absolutely fuming. He goes to Tahiti for five minutes Natasha wtf are you DOING? And wtf are you doing about your goldfish? YOU CAN'T LEAVE HIM WITH YOUR GOLDFISH they have needs or something wtf)

(HIS ADDRESS IS NOW ON THE INTERNET, NATASHA. IT IS TRENDING ON TWITTER.)

(LEO IS GOING TO KILL YOU.)

...Basically I have a lot of feelings. And very little coherence.

[ashen_key]

IS COULSON SAYING HE WILL LET HER POOR DEFENCELESS GOLDFISH LANGUISH AS SHE RUNS OFF TO AFGHANISTAN WITH A FUCKED UP SHOULDER TO RESCUE HER BFF. LOW BLOW, COULSON, LOW BLOW.





She may try and buy Leo some new original sheet music as an apology, though.

(Fics I need to write: this one)

[notapilot]

Just wait until Tuesday when we see how this hits your show Agent.

[howdoyoufeel]

That huge Mexican Standoff had me gleeing with OMG. >.>

((Hi from new!Peggy-mun. App has been submitted but currently pending))

[thefirststark]

1. Enjoyed the film a lot, though less then everyone else here, it seems. I think if you poke at the plot too much, it might unravel. But everything was quite well done.

2. When I first thought about playing Howard Stark, it was because I envisioned him being forced to work with Arnim Zola by the SSR. So...CALLED IT! But now our new Peggy and I need to think about what it means that HYDRA was infiltrating SHIELD the whole time. In some way, it's like the Star Wars prequels, where the audience knows everything is doomed but the characters don't.

[protect_and_survey]

I just wanna say:

...

My girl shot Sitwell first.

*ducks, ducks so much*

*goes to watch AoS now*